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PART 1 OF 3

Part 1: KEEPING THE MAIN THING THE MAIN THING
(Why experiencing and extending the kingdom of heaven on earth is all that matters)

Part 2: LOVING CHOICES AND PUBLIC HEALTH
(Why I am personally pro-vaccine while also wanting to respectfully listen to and learn from people who disagree)

Part 3: RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
(Some suggestions on ways to move forward together)

Hi friends. I am asked regularly by a variety of people for my opinion on all things COVID-19, vaccinations, mask-wearing, and government intervention. So I’ve decided to do a short series of blog posts to invite you into my process, for those who might be interested.

In this first post, I want to share some introductory thoughts about my general approach to the topic of submission to government. In part 2, I will share how I interpret the competing voices on the science and sanity of vaccinations and government legislation. In part 3, I will suggest some ways we can all move forward together and will talk more about what it means to “not give up meeting together” according to Hebrews 10:24-25.

The following opinions are those of this participant, and do not necessarily reflect the views of our church, our denomination, or its sponsors. 😉

MY CONFESSION

I should start with a confession: these issues do not interest me as much as they seem to interest many of the people who ask for my opinion or who try to engage me in conversation about it all. Let me explain…

Yes, I believe they are important topics, but not everything that is important is personally engaging to everyone. I am grateful that dentists know dentistry and chemists know chemistry and mechanics know mechanistry, but I don’t personally care to think about or talk about these topics all the time even though I know they are valuable contributors to contemporary life. This is how I feel about most discussions revolving around vaccinations and mask-wearing and government guidelines.

I’m not saying this is a particularly good thing or bad thing about me. It just is. If you find these issues interesting and engaging and you enjoy spending time looking into it all, I am cheering you on! (Better you than me, I think quietly to myself.) 😊

MY STARTING POINT

My default is simple: in every conversation I have, every mental reaction I allow myself, and every interaction I engage in, I want to move with the flow of the Holy Spirit in me, who we know is working to produce more love, more joy, more peace, more patience, more kindness, more goodness, more faithfulness, more gentleness, and more self-control (Galatians 5:22-23).

In every conversation I have, every mental reaction I allow myself, and every interaction I engage in, I want to move with the flow of the Holy Spirit in me.

~ Bruxy Cavey

When it comes to the issues of governmental guidelines during this pandemic, I am happy to do whatever is recommended by our government as long as it does not push me to disrespect, disobey, or deny Christ. Then I can move along happily with my focus put back onto things that more naturally (and supernaturally) occupy my attention – like the mission and message of Jesus and what it means to help people experience and extend the kingdom of heaven on earth. One of my favourite Bible verses helps me keep it simple:

Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus.
(Hebrews 3:1)

Amen! We live in a world of infinite distractions, and I find current debates about our government’s approach to healthcare can be added to that long list. My goal is always to find the simplest and most Jesus-centred way forward, the way that helps rather than hinders our calling to keep our thoughts fixed on Jesus.

I pass everything through my mental filter of what matters most to me: helping more and more people learn about and follow Jesus. I am pretty one dimensional that way. A broken record. A one note song. To riff off the first-century Rabbi Hillel: Jesus is life to me; the rest is commentary.  That commentary can be helpful support and important backup, but when it starts to overtake the central place in my mental space and prime real estate in conversations with others around me, it becomes distracting noise and I need to re-adjust my focus before my soul begins to shrivel.

Having said that, even though the topics of masks, vaccines, and civil liberties do not directly capture my interest, people do capture my interest, and a lot of people have been asking me about these things. So, what follows in this series of posts is, no doubt in a clumsy and inadequate fashion, me trying to lay out how I’ve been approaching and processing these issues in my mind and my relationships. I am writing this series of posts, not because I like to swim in these conversational waters, but because I am pulled into them regularly by people who ask me questions. With that in mind, I appreciate your grace as I do my best to wade into some waters I don’t usually swim in.

AN OBSERVATION

People tend to be egocentric. And that is completely understandable. But as a community of Jesus People, the Church should be a network of relationships where we challenge one another to push back against this tendency toward self-absorption in all of us, where we encourage and help equip one another to do a better job of loving others around us.

And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds.
(Hebrews 10:24)

The Greek word behind spurring one another on means to jab, poke, or stab someone with something sharp. I love it. Christ-followers are called to provoke one another, to jab one another, to poke and prod one another toward loving well and living well.

Christ-followers are called to provoke one another, to jab one another, to poke and prod one another toward loving well and living well.

~ Bruxy Cavey

But it seems to me that over the past number of COVID-19 dominated months, when our government gives us health guidelines during this difficult time, a common Christian response has been to criticize our leaders while asking ego-centric questions about our rights, our freedoms, our liberties and how we can protect them. I anticipate these kinds of questions from the population at large, but I am disappointed when Christians mimic this mental focus. We ask collectively self-absorbed questions like “What are the exemptions for churches?” or “How are we going to organize ourselves as Christians to stand up for our rights and push back against government overreach?” etc.

Heavy sigh.

It seems to me that our government officials must hold a measure of unhealthy fear of the push-back of religious institutions, since they often make different guidelines for secular vs religious gatherings, usually being more lenient in their restrictions for religious meetings. What are these different standards based on? Government officials must discuss how far they can mandate what they feel is most healthy for our communities before they cross a line and offend too many religious people. Is this really the space we want to occupy in the minds of others when they think of churches in our nation? Do we want to be those people who cause others to walk on eggshells because they don’t want to offend us and draw our ire?

Heavier sigh.

GRATEFUL FOR GOVERNMENT

Providence. That’s the word used to describe how God works through all kinds of means in our world throughout history. This means that Christians can have a generally positive disposition toward institutions and organizations of power, especially governments, not because we find them consistently trustworthy, but because God is consistently trustworthy and he has promised to work through governments even when they are not. Because of Divine Providence, Christians can engage with government all the while looking for ways God might be at work through their decisions.

Christians can have a generally positive disposition toward institutions and organizations of power, especially governments, not because we find them consistently trustworthy, but because God is consistently trustworthy and he has promised to work through governments even when they are not.

~ Bruxy Cavey

We who follow Jesus are inspired by the way Jesus willingly submitted himself to Pontius Pilate, a terrible leader by most standards, saying:

You would have no power over me if it were not given to you from above.
~ Jesus (John 19:11) [For more on this, see here.]

That line from Jesus is super significant. Unless any governing authority asks us to do something that causes us to disrespect, disobey, or deny Christ, we should gladly and gratefully submit to our governments knowing that God is somehow bigger than our governments and is always at work through them. This seems to be an unambiguous New Covenant teaching.

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
~ The apostle Paul (Romans 13:1)

Lean into this idea a moment. Let it sink in. We shouldn’t breeze past it. Jesus, and later the apostle Paul, tells us just how big and engaged God is in human affairs, even if we don’t see it on the surface. Let’s not miss the glory of this reality. Let’s celebrate Divine Providence. [For more on Divine Providence, see my post here.]

And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose. 
~ The apostle Paul (Romans 8:28)

When the apostle Paul wrote these words above, in Romans 8 and 12, Nero was Emperor of Rome. And he was a bad man. But Paul had the faith to believe that God was bigger than Rome and was using even poor leadership to accomplish something that played right into God’s larger plan. Lord increase our faith and give us eyes to see.

[An aside: I realize that some Christians believe that the government is mandating that we do dishonour and disobey Christ by not assembling in Sunday services in the same way we have always done, but I’m not buying it and I’ll talk more about that in the last post of this three-part series.]

Yes, there may be times when we must not submit to ungodly government. One time the apostles were warned by the authorities not to publicly proclaim the good news of Jesus. But an angel of the Lord appeared to them in a vision and told them the opposite – to go and tell others about this new life in Christ. Peter and the other apostles made the choice not to submit to the governing authorities, saying:

We must obey God rather than human beings!
~ The apostle Peter (Acts 5:29)

If our government tells us we cannot proclaim Jesus, we will need to make this same apostolic choice, and gladly accept whatever persecution follows. But this story about the apostles is not a blanket permission to ignore the edicts of governments under the banner of “We must obey God rather than men!” We should have the faith to believe that it may be God who is the one instructing us through governments for our own and others’ wellbeing. That is Providence. In most cases, our cry will not be “We must obey God rather than government!” but rather “We must obey God by submitting to government!”

To be clear, I am under no delusion that pharmaceutical companies and secular governments are always acting out of other-centred love and the milk of human kindness. People want to make money and exercise power. I get it. Our Canadian government, like most governments, has often acted in unloving, damage-causing, truth-hiding ways, especially toward indigenous and marginalized people. This lived experience will understandably make many people more hesitant to trust. Whatever the reason behind our trust hesitancy, my encouragement to all Christ-followers is to remember that when we submit to government we are not so much trusting in government as much as we are trusting in God. We are not declaring that government is good, but that God is good and God is great and that in all things God works for our good.

This does not mean that we are never called upon to speak truth to power, only that our prophetic voice must occur within the framework of God’s Providence, which should lead to a disposition of peace in the middle of the storm. Love, even enemy love, is always our motivation rather than fear and its accompanying outrage. (Again, for more on how God’s Providence can lead to our peace, see this post here.)

When we submit to government, we are not so much trusting in government as much as we are trusting in God.

~ Bruxy Cavey

Rome was the government that both Jesus and the apostle Paul were engaged with when they pointed toward God’s overarching plan being worked out through government, and Rome was an unloving, damage-causing, truth-hiding superpower, like every super power before and since.

In his sermon to Greek leaders in Athens, the apostle Paul tells them:

From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. God did this so that they would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from any one of us.
~ The apostle Paul (Acts 17:26-27)

Wow. God is always arranging national history so that the maximum opportunity exists to encounter and engage with God’s own Self. When we focus on helping people experience and extend the kingdom of heaven on earth, we are moving in the flow of God’s Spirit at work in our world. Then we will have the faith to say along with Joseph, whose life was radically affected by the evil decisions of others around him: “You intended to harm me, but God intended it for good” (Genesis 50:20).

I think this is why the apostle Peter could have the courage and conviction to talk about submission “with all respect, not only to those who are good and gentle, but also to those who are unjust” (1 Peter 2:8), where the word translated “unjust” can mean both harsh and crooked, twisted, or perverse.

The bottom line for me is that it is not my job to police this world and to judge human hearts. (Remember, the hearts of Roman governor Pilate and emperor Nero were apparently quite evil, but somehow God was still working through their leadership.) So, whenever I am tempted to play the role of Judge over the universe, I recall that I am not good at it and the position is taken.

Whenever I am tempted to play the role of Judge over the universe, I recall that I am not good at it and the position is taken.

~ Bruxy Cavey

While mentoring a young pastor to help him guide his church well, the apostle Paul wrote:

I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people—for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all people.
~ The apostle Paul (1 Timothy 2:1-6)

Are we praying for, and thanking God for, our leadership as they try to navigate through this emotionally, relationally, and politically complex season of history? When governmental officials think of the Christian Church in Canada today, do smiles come across their faces and a lightness enter their hearts as they think “Ah, these people are always so grateful and kind toward us”? I have my doubts. And notice too in the above passage how Paul’s mind then moves quickly back to his main focus: joining God in his ultimate desire to see more and more people encounter Christ, our only hope of rescue out of our sin and self-absorption.

OUR REASON FOR BEING THE CHURCH

We have a lot to learn from the first generations of Christ-followers. The early church, persecuted as they were, seemed to have a singular focus of experiencing and extending the kingdom of heaven on earth. The Great Commission (Matthew 28:18-20) was their reason for being. And to accomplish their calling to make disciples of all nations, the first Christians were happy to bend where they could so they could save up their energies to be inflexible where they must. They were brilliantly strategic and refused to be embroiled in debates that could absorb their limited energies and pull them off mission.

The first Christians were happy to bend where they could so they could save up their energies to be inflexible where they must.

~ Bruxy Cavey

For instance:

  • Even though Jesus declared all foods clean (Mark 7:19), the Jerusalem Council recommends gentiles abstain from meat with blood in it out of kindness to their conservative Jewish brothers and sisters (Acts 15:28-29) and the apostle Paul recommends restricting our New Covenant liberties if it causes division in the Body of Christ (Romans 14:1-15:7).
  • Although a religious mandate to get circumcised could potentially compromise the gospel (see the book of Galatians), Paul would still circumcise Timothy (awkward!) to help advance the gospel (Acts 16:1-3).
  • Even though the need for animal sacrifice is done away with under the New Covenant (Hebrews 10:1-18), the apostle Paul would participate in the temple sacrificial system on at least one occasion in order to dispel the misunderstanding that he had become anti-Jewish (Acts 21:22-26).
  • Although the New Covenant allows for freedom of expression in appearance (John 7:24), Paul counselled men and women to follow cultural guidelines for showing respect (1 Corinthians 11). 
  • And even though paying taxes to Rome might fund a government that was far from God-honouring, Jesus encouraged paying taxes as a practical expression of submission (Matthew 22:15-22) and the early church followed this practice as an act of honour (Romans 13:6-7).

Once again: the early Church would bend wherever they could while being inflexible wherever they must.

So, for my sisters and brothers who might not be personally convinced by the science behind vaccinations and masks (more about this in our next post) or fear that our government is overreaching in its legislation, the bottom line for me is that if it isn’t an issue essential to the gospel, I would hope we could at least comply for the sake of living “peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness” (1 Timothy 2:2).

Let us not care about our rights as Canadian citizens as much as we care about our responsibilities as ambassadors of the Jesus Nation.

~ Bruxy Cavey

Let us not care about our rights as Canadian citizens as much as we care about our responsibilities as ambassadors of the Jesus Nation, and about making the most of every opportunity we might have to share the good news of Jesus.

Grace and Peace,

Bruxy

NEXT POST COMING SOON…

Part 2: LOVING CHOICES AND PUBLIC HEALTH (Why I am personally pro-vaccine while also wanting to respectfully listen to and learn from people who disagree)

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121 Comments

  1. MY QUESTION IS…. AT WHAT POINT IS GENE EDITING OFFENSIVE TO GOD, OF AT ALL…
    And if its not, if God is as cool with gene editing as Bruxy, do we really trust our governments to demand HOW much editing and merging with tech is acceptable?

    And for those wondering… YES, the covid vaccine is CRiSPr MRNA Gene tech. Now that we gave the governments the door into our bodies, what stops them from futher actions? (Think id2020 and quantum dot tatoos).

    WHO ISSUES NEW RECCOMENDATIONS ON GENOME EDITING FOR HUMAN HEALTH:
    https://www.who.int/news/item/12-07-2021-who-issues-new-recommendations-on-human-genome-editing-for-the-advancement-of-public-health

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/29/lab-tests-show-risks-of-using-crispr-gene-editing-on-embryos/
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-dark-side-of-crispr/
    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210412-the-genetic-mistakes-that-could-shape-our-species

    I now understand the worries of those leaving. Its not about vaccines. Is it, Bruxy?

    1. Well, vaccines are not new or newly mandatory. So why are you worried now re: some slippery slope to whatever tattoos you mentioned? We’re you worried in the 1960-2010s re: tattoos and etc?

  2. Thank you Bruxy. It is a pandemic of the unvaccinated now and people are dying and getting very sick needlessly. I thank God for the scientists and doctors who have provided us with a safe vaccine.

    I look forward to your next blog post regarding this topic.

    To the people not getting vaccinated, what is your solution to dealing with Covid besides the vaccine? How can you continue to fight against the vaccine when the huge majority of people in the ICU and hospital are unvaccinated? How could you live with yourself if you caught Covid, didn’t get very sick, but caused another person to die? How could you live with yourself if you ended up in the hospital and took doctors, nurses and beds away from people who are desperately in need of surgeries but are being postponed? Do you realize you are keeping others away from church by going to church unvaccinated? Immunocompromised people are staying away, elderly are staying away, parents of young children are staying away because they don’t want to be around a large number of unvaccinated people. I would love to be in church again but our church just had an outbreak and a few people ended up in the hospital. I know too many people at church who are unvaccinated and I don’t want my child to get sick while we are waiting for the vaccine to be approved for his age group. The unvaccinated are keeping our family away from attending church. And I am very sad and frustrated!

    One of the greatest joys of being a Christian is to bring new people to the community of church and yet as an unvaccinated person, you are doing the exact opposite. I just don’t get it. The misinformation of vaccines is everywhere and so many unvaccinated people are fighting tooth and nail to listen to it. Where did your trust for doctors and scientists go? And yes, you will find some scientists and some doctors who will support your views to not get the vaccine. But the overwhelming community of doctors and scientists around the world support vaccines. Another way to put it is that a few people out there also support that the world is flat (there is a huge billboard on a major highway between Edmonton and Calgary that advertises that the earth is flat) but the majority of people know that the earth truly is not flat. So choose wisely who you are listening to in regard to vaccines. The doctors and scientists who created and support vaccines aren’t out to get you. They are your neighbours, friends and fellow church members. We all just want to return to church, have the place full and sing loud alongside one another. Vaccines are the way out of this and yet so many of you refuse to listen to reason.

    1. I highly encourage you to go to http://www.worldeconomicforum.org

      You are correct, scientists and doctors push GMOs like it’s the end of the world… because it is.
      God gave us this gene editing tech, so the solution is to use it- not worry about the consequences, leave that to the professionals.

      I wouldn’t worry about the non-vaxxers, the choice will be removed for them soon enough and we can all get back to church like normal. My department at U of Guelph is working on getting the vaccine into crops, EVERYONE will be up to date, wether they like it or not.

      Wherever Nature has shortcomings, we can fill in the gaps by genetically modifying. There is hope for the future. With vaccines and with climate change. All with science, and Crispr Mrna.

      The resistance is futile, life WILL be going back to normal, just cashless, and less violent.

    2. Dear Louise,
      If you have such confidence in the vaccine, you should not need to worry about those who are unvaccinated. Either you believe that the vaccines work and you dont need to worry or the vaccines are not worth getting.
      My faith is in God not in the government and their mandates! If you look beyond our media, other countries have very different recommendations. This is not one unified effort.
      May God help us all!

    3. Dearest Louise,

      Please- go out on a limb and view the links. A patent to mine crypto and blockchain off body movemeents? A glow in the dark tatoo that self delivers vaccinesa and also pulls up your socail credit score?
      Whats there NOT for the church to love, right?

      https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2020060606A1/en

      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0142961212009477

      https://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218

      https://www.genengnews.com/topics/drug-discovery/quantum-dots-deliver-vaccines-and-invisibly-encode-vaccination-history-in-skin/

      https://www.gentarget.com/product-category/premade-lentivirus/luciferases/

      I supose it will be much easier for the meeting house to scan your glow in the dark lucifrace enzyme skin tatoo over an iphone Q code to enter church.

      Nice and safe and acozy, right louise?

  3. Omg!! Putting it into crops?!! Have you lost your minds…governments are breaking there own laws here! Why do you think so many doctors scientists and nurses are against this? More than they’re letting you know. And there own numbers are showing it’s not effective! If 40% double vaxxed in ICUs with covid,!! I may be forced to put an experimental medicine into me when I have a healthy immune system and have been working in frontlines healthcare btw with very little evidence of the numbers they talk about. If it’s so effective why force a minority to do it,? I feel sick that I have no choice over my own body… well I do…. Lose my job and starve if I choose otherwise! That is against so many laws. Charter, harrassment etc. I’m not a freedom fighting rebel. But I’ve been taught to think and be discerning and the science if you truly look at it all even from government sources, doesn’t add up!
    I guess if this is part of foundation for new world order, which I believe it is. I guess it’s no surprise to God ..may He help me through this. And spread the word of hope.

    1. Deborah,
      Clearly, Bruxy and the church have sided with logic and science- comprehending that it is from God.
      Maybe a fanatical evangelical church in Manitoba would be a better fit for you.
      I’ll be able to attend church in person, and enjoy the sermon, knowing everyone around is also using science/knowledge gifted to us. Will you?
      The choice is to embrace science, a cashless monitored much greener society- or become a hermit.
      If this plan was not from our father, I’m sure the bulk of the churches would have spoken up.
      Even Bruxy backs the science!
      I don’t understand the hesitation to this new, safer world. The tech is here to be embraced and trust that God is leading us. You are in the medical field. You should know this.

    2. Bruxy has nothing to do with science, just an apologist approach to moral questions. His take would have appeased the Nazis, and believe you me, Yeshua would NOT have approved of that as “right” regardless of whether He were willing to be sacrificed.

  4. Thank you Bruxy for faithfully calling us back to focus on the main thing – Jesus! Couldn’t agree with this more.

  5. Bruxy could read this, and sound like he knows what he’s talking about…. but the cult of “I believe in science” is strong in the woke-ist brethern in christ church.

    https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/08/19/conspiracy-theories-aside-there-is-something-fishy-about-the-great-reset/

    Cant wait to hear about how Jesus believes in the crispr mrna hemaphrodite mosquitos being released into the wild to comabt Zika being a great idea (despite the fact that there are now hemaphrodite frogs showing up in nature in the region.- or the effects Brazils areas around the release are terrifying) but, “I believe in science too”, so its fine, right Bruxy?

    All hail the crispr mrna. Lets bask in its glory. Holy, holy, holy, crispr mrna. All hail bill gates, and his benevolent heart for humanity.

    Oh, did you all forget that this covax agenda is from Bill? Dont feel bad, it was an annual 40 million dollar PR firm contract to help you along with that.
    Just keep believing hes a philanthropic doctor/virologist. Its easier that way, right?

  6. If Bruxy STILL can’t connect the meta verse with CrISPR mRNA jabs and a social reward system, I suspect the church is playing deaf and dumb intentionally.
    Compliance with this new world order will be our downfall, and here is Bruxy endorsing the beast system…. what in the Actual frack meeting house?!

    This great reset compliance MUST be intentional at this point. There is no other rational explanation.

    PS.
    I am a COVID nurse.

  7. Hmmm some crazy stuff on this board. End of the world, conspiracy, weird food scientists messing with my lettuce and beef. Oh man, I wonder if St. Augustine’s parishioners would have had as many silly and strange things to say? I’ll get a vaccine and muck on with my dumb life, the rest of you can argue about demonic tattoos and medicinal squash 😛

    1. Thank Jesus we have condescending ‘holier than thou’ folks to stop people from asking questions of their faith leaders….

      No wonder so many Christians are jumping ship.

    1. I think Bruxy’s waiting for the government to pressure more of his flock to join the transhumanist Jesus church first? He definatly doesnt believe in the God code of our DNA.
      I found exploring some of the links posted in the comments answered many questions, and raised some alarms for me.
      I was in the school gym when this MH BiC church began, and was content to show my vaccine passport to enter church on sundays. Who cares if 10% never show up again?

      Now I wonder why Bruxy has not addressed ANY of these issues: world economic forum. GMOs and how our biometric future depends on all of us getting an electronic “passport”

      Give this a listen.
      https://youtu.be/LIflPtvkpWM

  8. When we submit to government, we are not so much trusting in government as much as we are trusting in God.
    ~ Bruxy Cavey

    I am from the transfigurist Mormon Tabernacle- and I am delighted to see our Mennonite brothers and sisters are embracing the AI technologies that have been gifted to us. Your leadership in directing congregations to government compliance is commended, and the name “Bruxy Cavey” is making the rounds in positive discussions.

    If artificial intelligence, biometrics and DNA manipulation were sinful, our Father would simply not allow it to exist, instead of bestowing us this technology. This IS what the future will be. We can end hunger, war, and climate change by compliance to government overseers such as the World Economic Forum. There is no need to be concerned about vaccines, GMO’s or gene drive technologies- Trust God.

    The tech fear mongering in the comments is absurd. Especially the Alison Mcdowell Links. Anyone with a scientific driven mind can see how all this tech will actually benefit us.

  9. “I have not sat with idolatrous persons, neither will I go in with the hypocrites. I have hated the congregation of evil doers; and will not sit with the wicked. Psalm 26:4-5 Let us go forth therefore unto Him without the camp (the 501c3 tax exempt harlot “church” system), bearing His reproach. Hebrews 13:13 “You erected your shrine at the head of every road, and built your high place in every street. Yet you were not like a harlot, because you scorned payment. You are an adulterous wife, who takes strangers (501c3 govt hireling pastors) instead of her husband (Jesus). Men make payment to all harlots, but you made your payments to all your lovers, and hired them to come to you from all around for your harlotry.” Ezekiel 16:31-32 “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Revelation 18:4”But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, ..1 John 2:27– “Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from hence, touch no unclean thing: go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean that bear the vessels of the Lord.”Isaiah 52:11 “I will gather those who sorrow over the appointed assembly, who are among you, to whom its reproach is a burden.” Zephaniah 3:18

    The 501c3 “tax exempt” preachers have no light and no enlightenment, they are COUNTERFEITS and those sitting under them are in strong delusion. God commands us to COME OUT OF HER! Revelation 18:4 The religious harlot (fake church system full of freemasons, hypocrites, witches, warlocks and cluster b serpents/narcissists). Satan’s favorite activity is to make men comfortable in living a fake “Christian life” without ever being born-again. Those who are truly born again have a love of the Truth, even if the Truth goes against THEMSELVES. They realign themselves to go with the TRUTH and they suffer persecution because of it. Not so for false Christians. It is persecution that separates the saints from the “aint’s.”
    “Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.” 1 Cor 6:19-20 Injecting God’s temple with this evil sorcery (pharmakeia) is an abomination. It is the “abomination of desolation that sits in God’s temple, where it ought not.” Matthew 25:15

    BRUXY JUST DOESNT KNOW YET. But he will.

  10. One would think this is a pressing issue that Bruxy and the Meeting house Church would address, with governments pushing Boosters, cancelling Christmas, food shortages, inflation, all being used as vices to push others to inject CrISPR mRNA GMOs….

    And yet…

    THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING.

    It speaks volumes though.

    *thanks, Bruxy. I felt so much turmoil about leaving meeting house, and Your version of Christianity, but now I feel I made the best decision possible. I’m not welcome there anyhow, as an organic human, so that’s how it goes I guess.

    1. Wow! Thank You Elisabeth Snyder!
      In a sea of meeting house clueless transhumanists worshiping A false PRO-GMO idol your link to reality is such a breath of fresh air!
      I’m at a loss as to why Bruxy would not answer our questions, give direction, or even address the transhumanist, human plus agenda. I figured as a pastor that is constantly referencing science fiction pop culture, and even some who has access to morning news, or has folks in his congregation that work in crop sciences at university of Guelph… he would have HAD to address this and give us some ease…

      But his silence has spoken more volumes than any words possibly could.

      I’ve come to the conclusion most organized religions have fallen prey to this, and it may not just be Bruxy/meeting house.

      Thank you for pointing me and my family in the direction where we will be accepted as non-GMO believers….

      I doubt I will EVER be able to stomach meeting house again, even though I was there when they were 40 people starting in the school gym.

      Does Bruxy even keep up with his blog anymore?!

  11. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic. I hope that more people see the invitation in this blog post to enter into a fruitful discussion about these issues, which have become so divisive among brothers and sisters. I wholeheartedly belive that the enemy is using this situation to divide, conquer and devour the Body. We have such an opportunity to show the world who we are in Jesus in the way we treat eachother.

    1. What would be great is a list of churches that are accepting of :
      -non transhumanist folk
      -non Q code proud pass holders
      -those who feel their ‘God code’ in DNA is sacred

      Meeting house is most definitely not.

      In fact I’ve yet to see a church that acts less 1930s German style, but I’m pretty sure those running the dog and pony GMO show at MH are clueless.

      Jab jab jab jab jab jab jab for Jesus.

      Obey your government.

      (Just a bit tone deaf to your attendees that survived the 60’s scoop, the Japanese Christians who remember the pine smell of internment camps, the children of Ukrainian internment camps in Canada…. but as long as your on team “woke Christian “ yeah?)

  12. http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-faqs-what-christians-should-know-about-crispr-genetic-scissors/%3famp

    Trying to fit into the meeting house church as a Christian who doesn’t believe in genetic modification is like trying to fit Bruxy into low rise skinny jeans.

    Don’t bother, find a church that is accepting of organic humanity, and Gods organic creation.

    (How is backing the vaccine in genetically modified crops going, Bruxy? Nothing wrong with that either, huh? We get it.)

  13. Bruxy is making a splash in the transfigurist Mormon church circles!
    Well done! They are so proud that “basic Christians” are able to grasp the fundamental importance of genetic engineering through their wise pastors sermons.

    Kudos Bruxy!
    Maybe not the attention you were shooting for, but hey—- more jabs for Jesus, right?

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